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6659     12/28/04            Elgie commentary about blind judge in Ron Fox case. Link to fox main web page.

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Saturday January 31 2004 Elgie emails me. He has been helping.

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From: dlawyerdude@hotmail.com To: Elgie Zerod liberty1@speednetllc.com ; Lawyerdude's freakin Yahoo group Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2004 11:55 AM Subject: Please tell me some things about Elgie.

Are you a lawyer?

NO - I found myself in litigation when a tax title purchaser tried to quiet the title on our home. That is when I had a rude awakening and found out that the courts were NOT in business for justice. The tax buyer did NOT follow the General Property Tax Act which is the scheme whereby the state sells title for taxes. (In our case, we had a greater than 60,000 dollar home and he would obtain title for an initial investment of 1800 bux in taxes. Then, of course he would have to pay the other two years, of a like amount and we would be deprived of home and even receive NO equity. We went into court thinking that we would explain to the judge just what heppened and we learned very quickly - then after being denied, summary ruling for the other side (who did NOT follow the statute) and a quick course in the Michigan Court Rules and many hours of research in our favor - it didn't

matter - the other side had a lawyer and we were out in the cold.

 

How did you hear about Ron Fox?

 

Bill Munro was helping Ron when he realized that we were both in Bay City and so Bill sent him to me. My problem with Ron was that he would double check everything I told him with Bill, (that is not the problem), then his brother-in-law who was a paralegal

 

[Lawyerdude says: This shithead brother in law, Art, called the Saginaw sheriff. A detective from computer crimes telephoned me to inquire. He told me that Art said I am practicing law without a license. I hate paralegals.]

 

and even though I showed him in the Federal rules how certain things did NOT apply to him, he would try to utilize everything I might tell him, Bill and then Bro and that messed up the works. Ron needed to do a removal action to get out of the crooked state, (local) courts and have his case heard in federal court. He would jump the gun depending on the last person he talked to and it reached the point that I could not extricate him from the problems he was creating for himself. At that point, it was time for me to back out and let him follow another's lead. (Such as the Bro was NOT familiar with the federal rules and was

trying to have Ron file in state court - I was trying to get him OUT of the state court. Once the lower court rules, the federal judges will NOT intervene up here.

 

What's with this blind judge? HE's an arrogant, and very argumentative judge. He interrupts on direct and/or cross and as a consequence not only is the person doing the inquiry shaken, the witness also becomes stressed. Can you tell me the procedure in Michigan? Which procedure? Just the regular process? In Ventura we did the preliminary examination in Municipal court and then went to Superior court. Is that what happens in Michigan? We have a District Court which will take a plea, and may also render a decision on a misdemeanor, civil infraction and/or traffic cases. The course of appeal from the District court is to the Circuit Court. They have the local power. (There is also a probate court which deals with juvenile, custody and, of course, probate.) To appeal from the Circuit Court there is a 21 day limit on a 'right' of appeal and that is to the Michigan Court of Appeals, usually a three judge panel. From there one may appeal, again of right to the Michigan Supreme Court. One may also appeal to the COA or SCt by leave if outside the time constraints. (They will gladly take the $250 filing fee for almost any reasonl, at each step of the way. I do understand that those fees have been increased since 9/11 as they have implemented greater security measures.) I was also trying to get Ron to file in Forma Pauperis but he jumped the gun on that as well and applied prior to filing and one of the requisites is to show the court that there is merit. Under 28 USC he would have done well in federal court but I don't believe he ever got that far. He was running here, there, hither and yon with all the advice of people who have never been in court. I do feel very bad for him as I know what he has run up against with the local police. LA has NO monopoly on bad cops. I guess it has stemmed from the LEAA and the new method being taught in the academy. Police are NOT what I was raised with, but that was in the 30's & 40's when it was truly 'protect & serve' and Mr. Policeman was our friend. No more. I have never been involved in a HabC which is why I had asked. I have found that it is more difficult to undo a bad paper than it is to wait and do it right. Especially in federal court. The magistrate and the judge up here are not all that bad and will give a pro per a chance but they will not do the paperwork, now will they accept half way efforts, (although the clerks are pretty good), if the individual really doesn't know what he is doing. They are helpful, but NOT to the extent that they have to spoon feed the litigant. Unfortunately, I fear that is why Ron was not taken seriously and never got beyond filing the paperwork, which was incomplete.

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